Let’s see you ban snow shovels, asshole.
((I have to say something here, because I see this argument quite often.
Knives can be used to kill, but they’re also a utility item. I keep a knife with me almost all the time, i can use it for opening packages, cutting things, etc. They’re not JUST for killing.
Guns, are just for killing. You can’t open a box with a gun. Well not without destroying whatever is in it any way.
Everything else on that list has some other function besides killing. Well I suppose bows and arrows don’t, but they also can’t be concealed inside your clothing, fired rapidly, or anything like that that guns can. But everything else there is a utility item, that could just be used for killing if someone wanted to. Guns are only for killing, they serve no other purpose.
I have to say though, I am not at all against gun ownership rights. I’d own a gun or 50 myself if I could afford them, I just really hate this argument.))
The REAL argument to go with is that no matter what you do, guns will still be available for people who want them. If you’ve heard of the black market, you know what I mean.
((Yup, if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns.
That’s a quote from someone but I forget who.
I’d rather everyone have guns to defend themselves than only criminals have guns to attack those people with. People are going to get guns whether or not they’re legal, that’s just how it is. but if they’re illegal, then it’ll end up with only criminals being armed. or something happening like during prohibition or some shit.))
((Given a choice between a Sniper Rife and Bow for (somewhat) close range, concealed sniping, I go with the bow every time. It’s silent, and can be more damaging than a gun in the right hands. I can fire a shot, move to another position, and fire again before they figure out where I shot from. Everything here is dangerous in the wrong hands, the real key is keeping them in the right hands.))
Truth is illegalising guns helps and should be done when was the last time there was a major shooting in Britain? or any other country where guns are illegal, you forget 130+ have died in mass shootings in america since 1999. There is no arguable reason to own full military grade weapons. You can still own a gun in the UK but the laws are so extreme that it keeps it out of the hands of lunatics and the gun must have a purpose to and there are like a million regulations you have to pass to even get considered to own a gun, illegalising guns is proven to work I am sorry to say.
illegalising guns is too far we re given the right to bare arms since the constitution stated it takeing that right away is going against our very foundation
Illegalising guns does not go against your foundation, You was founded on freedom and liberty (which the govt does very very badly) not gun ownership
Nearly any item is capable of being used as a deadly weapon in the right hands.
You know what noble purpose guns serve? The protection of innocent lives. I would much rather have the bad guys armed than not have a weapon to defend myself and those I love. Lunatics can always get their hands on guns. The black market exists for a reason.
You argue about Britain, but the United States has a significantly larger population. More people = more nuts. Marijuana is illegal, yet millions of Americans “smoke weed erry day,” as well as do other drugs that are also illegal. Do you really think that guns would be any different? “Where there’s a will, there’s a way.”
I wonder why it is never considered that the problem does not stem from the weapons, but the raising of children? Why do people not look at what kind of homes these killers came from? Why not look at the educational system? Much about a person is decided during their childhood and adolescence. A gun is only a tool, an extension of the human body the same way any other tool is. It can be used for god or for evil. For it to be used for good, it must be available to the good.
Yes, nearly every item is capable of becoming a weapon in the wrong hands. However, there is a difference between a person attacking you with, say, a stick, and a person armed with an assault rifle. It’s not a question of stopping all violence ever, it’s a question of limiting damage. A person with a gun that can fire 100 bullets in under a minute can do several orders of magnitude more damage than a person armed with a knife.
Yes, banning guns won’t stop people from getting hold of them. But it would make it so that, if a person should get hold of them, which would be much harder and more expensive, so it would be less likely for dangerous people to own them, they’ll be much less able to use them, as if the police even got an idea that they could be holding a gun they could authorise a raid and remove the person from anywhere where they could do damage.
Yes, the population of America is much larger than that of Britain, but the number of gun crimes committed in America is far out of proportion of even that. The UK has a population of about 62 million, while the US has about 300 million, so going on numbers, the US should have about 5 times as much gun crime as the UK. However, when you check the data, it is much much higher. In 2007, according to the Home Office, who are responsible for collecting crime data, there were 59 fire-arm related deaths in the UK. In the US, according to the American National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, there were over 30 thousand gun related deaths. That’s a factor of over five HUNDRED times as many deaths. That is way out of proportion to mere differences in population size. Even taking into account that the US has a four times greater homicide rate per 10,000 population, that is still way larger than it should be.
And of course society is partly to blame, a person’s upbringing is partly to blame, mental illness may be partly to blame, but that isn’t the point. I find it unlikely that merely owning a gun inherently causes violence, “the blade itself inciting to deeds of violence”. The point of gun control laws is that, when people are driven to acts of violence, the danger they can pose to others is limited. People aren’t allowed to carry weapons in places where they could hurt random innocents, they are prevented from owning weapons that can kill on an industrial scale, and they aren’t allowed anything if they are believed to be likely to cause a threat.